Head to head

Dunlop Ice 17 (1.25) vs Kirschbaum P2 17L (1.20)

Ice 17 (1.25) leads on 5 of 6 measurements. The widest gap is string friction, where Ice 17 (1.25) is 21 percentile points ahead. Every figure is a testing-machine result at a fixed reference tension.

Measured, side by side

Dunlop

Ice 17 (1.25)

Polyester · 17 ga

Kirschbaum

P2 17L (1.20)

Polyester · 17L ga

Stiffness lower = softer, kinder on the arm
19360th pct
19765th pct
Tension loss lower = stays where you strung it
4067th pct
4270th pct
Energy return higher = livelier, more free power
8625th pct
8522nd pct
Spin potential higher = more spin off the string bed
5.056th pct
4.851st pct
Ball bite higher = grabs the ball harder
0.41029th pct
0.44150th pct
String friction lower = strings slide and snap back
0.08229th pct
0.09250th pct

Bars are percentile against all 791 strings, and the marked side is the one that measures better, which is not always the one you want. A firmer bed is worse for your elbow and better for your control, and no measurement knows which of those you came for.

Which one wins, by problem

Each string's standing on the site's rankings, out of every measured string in the database. This is where a comparison stops being arithmetic and starts being a decision.

Swapping between them: what tension?

Bed stiffness is published at one reference tension, so the only honest conversion is to scale it. These are starting points from 52 lb, not prescriptions. The calculator takes your own tension.

Coming from Ice 17 (1.25) at 52 lb

String P2 17L (1.20) at 50.8 lb 23.0 kg

Coming from P2 17L (1.20) at 52 lb

String Ice 17 (1.25) at 53.2 lb 24.1 kg

Hybrid: what if you used both?

Estimated, not measured. No hybrid combination has been tested as a bed. These figures are the two strings' own lab measurements weighted by how much of the bed each one actually is. Treat them as a guide to which way a pairing moves, never as lab data.

Ice 17 (1.25) mains / P2 17L (1.20) crosses

Stiffness62nd pct · 1 measured
Tension loss68th pct · 1 measured
Energy return24th pct · 1 measured
Spin potential55th pct · 1 measured
Ball bite33rd pct · 1 measured
String friction33rd pct · 1 measured

P2 17L (1.20) mains / Ice 17 (1.25) crosses

Stiffness63rd pct · 1 measured
Tension loss69th pct · 1 measured
Energy return23rd pct · 1 measured
Spin potential53rd pct · 1 measured
Ball bite49th pct · 1 measured
String friction45th pct · 1 measured

Open this in the hybrid builder

Which goes dead first?

Estimated from tension loss, which is the only thing the database measures about ageing. This is when the bed stops playing the way you strung it, not when the string breaks.

Ice 17 (1.25)

~20 hours of play

P2 17L (1.20)

~19 hours of play

Both strings in full

Every published measurement
StringGaugePriceStiff lb/inLoss %Power %SpinBite COFFriction COF
Dunlop Ice 17 (1.25) Polyester17find19340865.00.4100.082
Kirschbaum P2 17L (1.20) Polyester17Lfind19742854.80.4410.092

Add a third string Ice 17 (1.25) in full P2 17L (1.20) in full